>> right now, outside of hoyer, the person most chatter about is chris van hollen, representative from maryland, a democrat, paul ryan's foil on the budget committee in the house. again, a young, sort of take charge, a charismatic leader. he raised a lot of money. he ran the democratic congressional campaign committee for two cycles. so he has a lot of pull. complicated a little bit by the fact that he and hoyer are friends and they represent the same state and run in the same circles. he was the assistant to the speaker in nancy pelosi's last term as speaker. that seems to be the person who bubbles to the top the most. and a question about what debbie wasserman schultz will do. democratic committee chairman. no one does that job too long. she is looking at a way to leadership. i hate to use terms like the smart money, but the smart money seems to be if pelosi wants to know if a successor and get behind somebody, it would be chris van hollen. >> that shakes. drama makes what is going on in the senate look tame by comparison. what is the lay of the land on the senate side? >> i think it